`78 cafe-inspired build thread

[madmax-im]

I thought you may like this. It was a 78 xs11 standard.


Her is another one, it was a 79 standard.

When our bikes are cafe'd like this ..it just improves the look and feel of the bike...doesnt take much to see who knows what they're doing versus those that dont...

[T99Ford]

Yep, XS11's make respectable cafe bikes!

Mine (from a few years ago)

[Yard Dogg]

They'll certainly out run the smaller cc bikes.

[GoRacers]

Question for the trans experts.. .

Do I absolutely have to split the cases to replace the gear sets? I haven't started to dismantle the trans yet, just pulled the pan and peeked inside. It seems like everything could be maneuvered out if the side covers, oil pump and clutch are removed.

If the cases need to be split, I may just swap 2nd and 5th (since those are my problem spots and the tech walkthrough shows that can be done without splitting.

What I found in the pan was disheartening, to say the least. Pics tomorrow.

[Yard Dogg]

I've never built one of these trannys, just wondering how many miles are on it. If it's high mileage you may want to replace more than those gears.

[GoRacers]

I've never built one of these trannys, just wondering how many miles are on it. If it's high mileage you may want to replace more than those gears.

Of course. But if I can swap those gears and avoid splitting the cases before winter, I'd rather go that route.

[DGXSER]

Look in the tech tips, under repairs, transmission. There is a step by step on how to pull the countershaft out through the tranny pan opening. It is not a simple easy task, but I have done it several times, so anyone can do it.

[GoRacers]

Look in the tech tips, under repairs, transmission. There is a step by step on how to pull the countershaft out through the tranny pan opening. It is not a simple easy task, but I have done it several times, so anyone can do it.

THAT'S what I wanted to hear. I like to consider myself very competent with a wrench. New to bikes, but I've built a few Volkswagens in the past.

Thick, muddy crap in the oil filter, oil filter housing, and oil pan.


I hope those are bits of transmission and not engine internals....

[DGXSER]

Check the oil filter for the washer and spring, alot fo times the washer that is supposed to stop the spring going up through the filter is missing. If it is not there, the spring goes into the filter, and the filter is never working as oil will just bypass it.

That red stuff looks like gasket material, is it hard plastic or rubbery?

[Yard Dogg]

I was gonna say it almost looks like valve seals, or maybe clutch disk parts.

[GoRacers]

Check the oil filter for the washer and spring, alot fo times the washer that is supposed to stop the spring going up through the filter is missing. If it is not there, the spring goes into the filter, and the filter is never working as oil will just bypass it.

That red stuff looks like gasket material, is it hard plastic or rubbery?

I do not remember a spring in the oil filter housing/filter/bolt assembly. I'll check it again.

The red stuff is definitely gasket material.

The engine ran great and didn't make any bad or unusual noises, so I'm hoping that the metal fragments are all parts of the transmission.

[GoRacers]

Also, the vent on the top of the trans was vented to atmosphere without a filter, could explain the level of dirt in the oil.

[DGXSER]

There are two vents in that area, the lerger one, about 3/4" hose, is the crankcase vent. It goes up to the air box to vent the fumes back into the intake. It can just as easily go to atmosphere, gases should be going out not in.

The second is much smaller, about 1/4" hose, that is the middle drive vent. It goes up under the tank and open to atmosphere.

The metal flakes are most likely from the transmission. I am thinking you wil find your shift forks looking a little worn and very rounded edges on the dogs of the gears.

[GoRacers]

There are two vents in that area, the lerger one, about 3/4" hose, is the crankcase vent. It goes up to the air box to vent the fumes back into the intake. It can just as easily go to atmosphere, gases should be going out not in.

The second is much smaller, about 1/4" hose, that is the middle drive vent. It goes up under the tank and open to atmosphere.

The metal flakes are most likely from the transmission. I am thinking you wil find your shift forks looking a little worn and very rounded edges on the dogs of the gears.

Let's hope that's the case.

http://www.xs11.com/xs11-info/tech-t...lwalkthru.html
This shows that the gears can be removed through the oil pan opening...what about the shift drum and forks?

[DGXSER]

The shift forks will drop out after you remove the shift fork shaft. the shift drum does not need to come out necessarily. However, if you find you need to remove yours, it can also be removed without splitting the cases.